The left front (under your left wrist) is where the hard disk goes (I know; I had to replace mine). Seems suspicious. But when my HD went, it gave me lots of warning.. woke me up in the middle of the night with nasty sounding grinding and stuff. Hell, I still use it for backups in a FW enclosure. You might question the wisdom of using a broken drive for backups, but come on, better than nothing! :) keep on 'em about it.. Good luck! - reid > well people sell broken stuff on the ebay - and well people willingly > buy that stuff. maybe it is needed for parts or maybe they don't care. > but I feel apple should fix my ibook... but I feel a bit burned after 2 > times... > > then when they check it they don't let it overheat so maybe they think > there is no issue or it is software or that it is just my imagination. > I should email them all the crash logs. > > stefano