On 1/20/05 12:46 AM, "Kathi Anderson" <kathialexis at cox.net> wrote: > I am anxious to salvage the apps on the iBook. It has > MS Office and Illustrator and Photoshop and Quark. I would like to use these > apps, and without the disks, I am hoping that between the Panther disk and > Techtools, I can keep them running. Since you do not have the original disks for these programs you do not own them. The official word for this is piracy. Yes, lots of people seem to have no ethical problems with using software for which they didn't pay. We find many of them in jails. Similarly, many people have no ethical problems with selling computers preloaded with software and music but keeping the CDs for themselves - just as the person who sold the computer to you. The official word for this is also piracy. We often find these people on Ebay but also lots of Mom and Pop computer stores; and increasingly in court as the software police continue their crackdown on piracy. Are the software police likely to show up at your house someday? No. But if you are going to use this software you should pay for it. It is the right thing to do. If you cannot afford it you obviously don't need it - if you were a professional graphics designer the computer and software could be written off as a business expense, as is mine. FWIW, for home use Mac:Office can be had for under $150 and that includes a license for *3* computers. Adobe Photoshop Elements has all the features home graphics users need and can be bought for under $100. There are less featured and less expensive options for Illustrator and Quark as well. You may not think you deserve this rant but it is something that needs to be said. Software piracy is theft whether it feels like it or not. david