I'm really trying very hard not to say something sarcastic about your sermon. OK, I won't. But you're way too hard on Kathi, who bought the computer not knowing it wasn't "legal" to use the software that was on it. Actually I will say this. When "used" software is sold on "used" computers, what Microsh*t has gained is another potential customer by letting them use what amounts to a demo version. Eventually the 'puter will be replaced and/or the software upgraded and the person will have to purchase the software...as we see graphically illustrated in Kathi's dilemma. Software companies cry in their champagne over illegal copies of their programs being distributed in third world countries. People there can't afford the US PRICES, but they are being brainwashed into believing it's the best and eventually they'll earn enough to buy it at prices to buy Bill Gates another airplane... --------------------------- -donald henry hinkle "The universe is made of stories, not of atoms." (Muriel Rukeyser) On Jan 20, 2005, at 9:30 AM, david wrote: > On 1/20/05 12:46 AM, "Kathi Anderson" <kathialexis at cox.net> wrote: > >> I am anxious to salvage the apps on the iBook. It has >> MS Office and Illustrator and Photoshop and Quark. I would like to >> use these >> apps, and without the disks, I am hoping that between the Panther >> disk and >> Techtools, I can keep them running. > > Since you do not have the original disks for these programs you do not > own > them. The official word for this is piracy. Yes, lots of people seem > to have > no ethical problems with using software for which they didn't pay. We > find > many of them in jails. Similarly, many people have no ethical problems > with > selling computers preloaded with software and music but keeping the > CDs for > themselves - just as the person who sold the computer to you. The > official > word for this is also piracy. We often find these people on Ebay but > also > lots of Mom and Pop computer stores; and increasingly in court as the > software police continue their crackdown on piracy. > > Are the software police likely to show up at your house someday? No. > But if > you are going to use this software you should pay for it. It is the > right > thing to do. If you cannot afford it you obviously don't need it - if > you > were a professional graphics designer the computer and software could > be > written off as a business expense, as is mine. FWIW, for home use > Mac:Office > can be had for under $150 and that includes a license for *3* > computers. > Adobe Photoshop Elements has all the features home graphics users need > and > can be bought for under $100. There are less featured and less > expensive > options for Illustrator and Quark as well. > > You may not think you deserve this rant but it is something that needs > to be > said. Software piracy is theft whether it feels like it or not. > > david > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook