>> I am anxious to salvage the apps on the iBook. It has >> MS Office and Illustrator and Photoshop and Quark.... > > Since you do not have the original disks for these programs you do not > own > them. The official word for this is piracy. Instead of ranting over what is probably innocent ignorance, why not suggest alternatives? Toss MS Office and replace it with NeoOffice -- http://www.neooffice.org/ -- it's a free (although large) download, thus avoiding ugggly license issues and transference of same. It handles MS Office files well enough, in some cases better than MS apps. If all you're using is Word, you'd probably be better off getting iWork ($79) & using the Pages app. Most people don't need most of Word's features, and those who do (e.g. tech writers like yours truly) prefer something a bit less buggy. Unless you really need full-blown Photoshop, and you probably don't unless you can afford your own copy, toss it and and get Photoshop Elements ($90 at the Apple Store). If you're the gearhead type, you could try a port of Gimp for free (but I wouldn't recommend it if you're not ready to lift the pretty Aqua hood and check out the Un*x plumbing underneath). Replacing Quark with a free/cheap program is a tougher nut. Scribus -- http://www.scribus.org.uk/ -- may get an OSX port in the next release, but that doesn't help you now.... You could get a trial version of InDesign, I'm not sure if it's time-limited or watermarked/disabled though. So for a maximum of $169, you've eliminated 2/3 of the piracy problem. -- Larry Kollar k o l l a r @ a l l t e l . n e t "The hardest part of all this is the part that requires thinking." -- Paul Tyson, on xml-doc