I might add an addendum to this.. IF your iBooks have run out of warranty and you can't strong-arm Apple into helping, don't despair.. Email me-there is a way to get them repaired short of a full logic board replacement. Dave >We have seen a pretty high number of the 12 & 12" G4 iBooks show the >same (or similiar) issues with video, as did the early G3 iBooks. >Unfortunately, Apple has successfully held off a class-action suit >against the G4's, so this has gone without any warranty coverage to >date. > >The symptoms are usually either video issues color streaks,bars, >random lockups when the colors show up, and a few which are not >showing video at all. > >The only answer I would have for this would be to make sure the >laptops are not being used in a way which torques/warps the lower >case. Teachers (and students) often use the laptop on uneven >surfaces, causing the case (and logic board) to warp. This >pressures the video chip and the processor, and they develop >hairline cracks. > >hope this helps... > >Dave > > > >>Greetings iBook listers >>A teaching colleague has just come around with her G4 14"iBook. She >>was working on her school reports when her screen developed >>problems. It suddenly cut out to 1 second screens of red, green, >>blue, etc. When she bought it around, it fired up okay so thought I >>would repair permissions and do an Open Firmware reset, not really >>believing they were the problem. But then the colours struck (I've >>never seen this before - nvram fault/ logic board?). After leaving >>it with the battery out for 30 mins, I tried an Open Firmware >>restart, then tried plugging in an external monitor (just stays >>black) and also tried Target mode (doesn't show up on other >>machine). >>One thing I did notice was that it has no start up chime. >>I left it for a couple of hours and tried it again. When I opened >>it up (I think it may have been left going but hard to tell) the >>fan started and ran for an abnormally long time. Then I tried to >>start it in Open Firmware but although I was holding down the kyds, >>it started normally. Unfortunately, I didn't have the user's >>password and so I had to ring her. I got this off her and started >>to drag stuff off onto an external drive. I had just got the >>precious reports off and was trying to grab all her other documents >>when it went into the coloured screens again - red, blue, green, >>grey, black, cycling through endlessly. I have now shut it again in >>the hope I can get a little more off it. It seems to go for 3 mins >>before going into this cycle. I'll try timing it next time. Any >>thoughts on the problem and solution? >>This particular school has had an incredible run of problems with >>their iBooks. This teacher is on her second after endless problems >>with her first and it is only 16 weeks old. Another teacher had 4 >>logicboard repairs until they replaced hers and the Principals was >>also replaced. I wonder about some bad practice in their use of >>their laptops. I understand that there is a design fault in the >>hinging of the screen putting pressure onto the logicboard. I have >>always encouraged kids to either have the screen fully open or >>shut, not 'play' with the catch opening and closing the lid as they >>are prone to do. Any thoughts as to why they have been so beset >>with problems and possible solutions. This is only a 8 teacher >>rural school and the young teacher in charge of computing is >>tearing her hair out coping with the number of computers she has to >>take in for repairs. These are all 12" / 14" iBooks. >>Cheers >>_______________________________________________ >>iBook mailing list >>iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook >> >>Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > >_______________________________________________ >iBook mailing list >iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984