--- Sidar Sahin <sidar.sahin at funpac.com> wrote: > hello, > > im a good pc user, but wants to move to mac (i love > them!) > > after some playing with my ibook, it is now crashed. > (i installed dave, yahoo messenger mp3 player lots > of programs). ibook g3 366 384 meg ram mac os 9.2.2 > > this is happening: > > 1- after ibook opens, it freezes. i can move mouse, > but cant click anywhere. also in the task bar it > says: YAHOO MESSENGER. so i think maybe yahoo is the > problem, does mac have a task manager so I can > close all programs and see what is the problem? like > ctrl alt delete? Press the Command-(key just to the left of the spacebar)-Option-Escape keys at the same time; this opens up a window allowing you to Force Quit the current program. Usually works (but not always). > 2- ok, lets say I cant solve this problem (i cant do > anything!) so, i want to format my ibook. but I > cant! > > i put mac os 9.2 cd on ibook, boot from cd. opening > the recover window, but I cant click anywhere!!! > still says yahoo, and cant click anywhere. so, how > can I recover this ibook? How are you booting from the CD? It sounds like the iBook is still booting from the HD and getting to the point where it freezes. You can boot from the CD 2 ways: 1. (Preferred method) Hold down the "C" key while the iBook starts up from either a cold boot or a restart. This tells the iBook to boot from a CD if a valid System is availble 2. Hold down the Command-Option-Shift-Delete keys all at the same time during start-up; this bypasses the selected boot volume, sequences through all available drive locations and boots off the first valid System found. Not sure what you mean by "recover window." Another option is to start with Extensions Off (this works for starting from the internal HD, no the CD). You do this by restarting the iBook, and hold down the Shift key through the boot process. When the MacOS window comes up during the boot process, you'll see the phrase "Extension Off;" this deactivates any extensions added to the main OS. Many times there are Extension conflicts that cause a problem during start up. You can then hunt down the offending Extension (or multiple Extensions) and remove them (sometimes a long trial-and-error process). Starting with Extension Off *might* get you through the boot porocess and allow you to remove the Yahoo Messenger software (if that's what really causing the problem). Then reboot/restart. > > best to all, and thanks! > > sidar> Good luck.