I'm not an expert on clamshells, but given clamshells are older Mac laptops (seven years? Ten years?), I would guess that they have wafer (i.e., real) batteries) to maintain all settings including the clock. As with any electronic device which requires a battery to maintain memory, the battery sooner or later will wear out. With a current (i.e., post 2000) EEPROM, a computer will wear out long before the EEPROM. And, before someone asks, no, it is not possible to upgrade a computer or any other electronic device from a memory battery to an EEPROM (unless you are an advanced computer design engineer). Fred At 10:55 PM -0400 6/3/06, Tom R. no spam wrote: >On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote: > . . . >> I don't know when Apple >started using EEPROMs, but I had a 1997 7300 desktop which used the >now-outdated battery. My 14" iBook G3 900 uses an EEPROM, but without >the schematic, I have no idea where it might be located. > . . . > >IIRC, I've read that the clamshells have an internal >"clock" battery? -- 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html