It's probably my shoddy understanding of OS X, but having spent the afternoon sweeping up files to stop my 30g hard drive filling up, I just did some sums based on 'Get Info', and I seeme to have about 7 gigs missing: Users folder: 2.97g System: 1.06g Library: 3.99g Apps: 7.57g Free: 8 gigs (according to Finder anyhow) Which leaves me 7 gigs unaccounted for, or allowing for formatting etc. on the HD, at least 4 gigs. So what's OS X hiding from me, and why? Is my hard drive on the way out (it's a 2 and half year old G4 1.2mhz iBook)? cheers Matt