I think Jim is on to it with his suggestions especially booting from another source but have you tried resetting the Firmware? 1. shut the machine down and then power it on. 2. Immediately after you hear the startup sound, hold down the option +apple+o+f keys 3. the machine will boot into Open Firmware - grey screen / black letters 4. at the prompt onscreen type each of the following 3 commands exactly as written with no spaces (Note: each line should be followed by one press of the return or enter keys!) reset-nvram set-defaults reset-all After the last command the Mac will automatically restart. Then go and test and see whether or not siutaion u describe has changed in any way. Cheers H in NZ On 10/08/2008, at 3:34 AM, James Phillip wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm trying to help a friend make useful an iBook 700mHz (640MB RAM) > G3, but it is just slower than molasses, doing anything. Start-up > will take 10 or more minutes, launching any app will take minutes. > I've done several clean installs, both 10.3.9 and 10.4.11, but > nothing seems to help. I haven't added any additional apps, just > trying to get the base machine with only Apple apps to perform > reasonably for now. I've switched out RAM with new RAM from OWC. > Disk repair shows No Problems, Tech Tool Deluxe and Disk Warrior > find no problems. I've reset the nvram, but I'm stymied. Any ideas > or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > TIA, > > Jim Lubek > Helena, MT > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook