I'm absolutely in love with my clamshell and always have been. I have the often coveted "keylime" 466SE and a beautiful green softcase to match! It is true that you can do more with it these days than originally intended. The factory hard drive of 10gigs can now be upgraded to 120 gig! (I think, maybe a tad smaller than that). The memory can also be upgraded to one stick of 512 instead of the old max out of 320. With a bigger hard drive and almost double the memory it still weighs in as a very worthy machine in my eyes. The original airport card kicks butt and always pulls in a signal where others don't. There are, of course, frustrating limitations with certain programs like iLife (clamshell screen resolution does not meet requirements for anything past iMovie 2) but it keeps pace with the other kids in other areas. For instance, I can run Logic Express 6 or 7 with no problem. I partitioned my drive and have OS 9.2.2 on one section and I run OSX Tiger 10.4.x on the other with no problem. I would not downgrade to Panther at all. Love your clamshell! I have to admit that it's time for me to get something new based on the audio and video programs I like to run but I will never abandon "Kiwi" as he has been my buddy! I just love taking him out at the airport - it's a great conversation starter! Kathy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20090214/4d16483f/attachment.html