Nothin like changing the rug instead of just pulling it out. Don't push him too hard but if he shall fall make the landing soft. As in make sure everything will work and scanners make good presents for birthdays or other such... He will get there when he has everything and a little push. To be honest I have the same problem with my other half. I had to force her from OS 7.6 to 8.6 and again to 9.04 and again to 9.22. Now I want to get to OSX full time and she is very leary. Tell me Anne, what problems have you run into with Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10 Acrobat 5 and Indesign 2. Also is there a Stuffit version for OSX. Any insight into day to day problems I may encounter in these programs would be great. The biggest issue I have encountered in OS 9 is service providers not having Indesign. I am doubly sure this problem will persist. Quark is still lagging and I do not want to support them at all. Thanks jj