>On Tuesday, Feb 3, 2004, at 17:17 Canada/Eastern, Michael L. Brown wrote: > >>[...] USB internal drives [...] Sorry, should have stated ATA/IDE drives (one original IBM and one Western Digital 40GB). >New one on me. Could you give us more details? And why not use >internal ATA/IDE drives to begin with? > >>[...] you can set the firmware to be recognized in both OS9 and >>OSX, or to boot in either OS9, or boot in OSX, but not all three. >>[...] Additionally the card is likely to support internal drives, >>or external drives, but not both. I suspect that you have your SCSI drives installed internally. I always had mine externally, because I was forever using the external drive as a portable drive to update/maintain my daughter's PM7200 at college. I used an Adaptec 2930U for four years to boot off an external SCSI Zip 100 for maintenance purposes on my PM7500, along with a SCSI II Drive out of a server (that I could not terminate) and Yamaha 8424 burner. Whether it was memory, termination, or whatever, the inability to boot off of the ZIp drive with the disk maintenance and recovery programs was more important than figuring out termination, the right SCSI cable etc. With the 7500, all was well, but with the G4 I began to have boot problems in OSX. I originally bought the Orange Micro 907 as a second external SCSI link, then later bought the 930U, mostly because they were half the price of the Adaptec 29160, and I wanted to reduce desktop clutter. >I'm using the cheapest Adaptect card models, and it boots in either >systems and supports both int'l and ext'l devices. If what you say >is correct about your card, I shouldn't touch it with a bargepole. > >>After the lack of built in SCSI support in Jaguar [...] You mean you don't recall the howl of discontent over the continued lack of SCSI support in the Apple and MacFixit Forums every time a new build of OSX came out? And why there was need for SCSI Helper, etc? I guess I am an early adopter and like to experiment a lot with shareware, so the inability to boot off of my external Zip drive in OS 9.2.2 drove the move away from SCSI and to FireWire. >Where did you get that idea? Oh, I am aware from reading forums that folks are still using SCSI, especially for RAID and other fast storage devices, but I can't afford, nor need those kinds of devices. What Adaptec card do you have? Mike -- Almost never pointless.