[q] Ideas for POINT TO POINT Video conferencing using two DV cameras via broadband for two MACS behind NATs

[warwick teale]

Guys,  sent this out a while back but still no solution yet:

Any ideas/ advice/experience for some good software

- for point to point video conferencing/video phone for OSX ( i don't 
want chat groups or WAN chat)
- enabled for DV firewire cameras (not USB) - using SONY DSRPD150 and 
DSRPDX10 each side.
- full duplex across IP (ok I can tolerate some delay)
- point to point only (a->B and B -> A) - no "chat group" facility
- reasonable audio
- FPS?- 25 sounds good but will settle for less (only talking heads
- camera sources are DVCAMs (PD150 and PDX10) via firewire with own 
audio or AUDIO from TI' inbiuld mic, output from speakers in Ti
- no fancy gimmicks - just (I wanna see and hear them, they wanna hear 
and see me)
- SHAREWARE ok .. but dont mind paying

I have been trying SQUIDCAM agian just now and I cannot get to work at 
all. It doesn't see my camera attached to the firewire input. THe 
recommended drivers seem to be USB based.. (i.e. from 
http://www.ioxperts.com). AT $USD25.00 per copy sounds great BUT I cant 
get the demo up.

any ideas and success stories welcome.

ta

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