[MacDV] Re: [MacDV]New to list: Questions about DV components

R B Williams brucewll at comcast.net
Wed Feb 25 09:21:53 PST 2004


The camera does the conversion in hardware and sends a dv stream for iMovie to use
without modification.

R.W.

Paul Miller wrote:

> Wow...I'm increasingly happy(email by email) that I
> joined this list!  I had considered the possible
> purchase of El Gato Eye TV usb (even though it
> wouldn't run on OS9) so I would have the option of
> broadcast recording--then I found out it's analog
> cable, not digital (more digital channels in my area).
>  I had NOT considered using a DV camera as a
> passthru/comverter..SMART IDEA!! It helps very much to
> justify the cost and migrate away from analog/vhs
> altogether!  So I have to ask now (and again, I'm
> sorry to bug everyone) in terms of importing dv video:
> if I use iMovie with the camera I can pull the .dv
> file via import function, but when using it as a dv
> converter does it function in realtime via iMovie or
> quicktime (for conversion?) or does it use a specific
> os9 vs osX program?...or am I missing the boat here?
>
> TIA,
> Paul
>
> ps...is there an archived list so I stop bugging the
> pros.  Thank you to everyone for the help so far.
> Really.
>
> --- R B Williams <brucewll at comcast.net> wrote:
> > The Dazzle would drop 3 - 4 frames at a time unless
> > I was feeding it a signal with
> > timecode. Since I was converting older tapes, the
> > extra step to add timecode first was
> > too time intensive.
> >
> > Yes, you can use the Lacie burner with toast, but
> > not iDVD. Sorry, I made an assumption
> > that you were thinking idvd and imovie.
> >
> > Another lister recommends getting a Canon ZR (I have
> > a 40). It looks like they can be
> > found on eBay for 250-280 right now. That would be a
> > great way to go and give you a
> > miniDV camera to boot.
> >
> > R.W.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Bruce-
> > > What issues came up with Dazzle?  I realize it is
> > a
> > > "first generation" attempt at an analog-to-dv
> > bridge
> > > so something had to be wrong with it, but then
> > again I
> > > hear mixed reviews for a few of the sub $500
> > models.
> > > I realize that I'm not using a cutting-edge
> > computer
> > > to begin with but I still would like to avoid any
> > > additional/possible problems.
> > > PS: I read that Lacie's FW DVD burner (taost lite
> > > included) will be compatible with my system as
> > does
> > > their FW D2 HD.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Paul
> > > --- R B Williams <brucewll at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > I began editing in OS 9 using iMovie. There were
> > > > many issues that I struggled through,
> > > > but I was able to complete several projects. I
> > later
> > > > tried Final Cut Express and was
> > > > amazed at how much easier the work became. It
> > simply
> > > > works better in all respects
> > > > without the slow response that iMovie gives as
> > it
> > > > manipulates video files on disk.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have any first hand info on getting DV
> > into
> > > > a twentieth anniversary Mac, but I
> > > > suspect that will be tricky since your main
> > > > processor is on a daughtercard. I wasn't
> > > > happy with Dazzle on a B&W system.
> > > >
> > > > There's another hurdle to jump for burning the
> > DVD's
> > > > too. Have you found some program to
> > > > do that on your system? Not much point in
> > digitizing
> > > > and editing if you can't print the
> > > > disc.
> > > >
> > > > R.B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul Miller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello to Everyone on the list!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new here.  This will be my first post.
> > Sorry
> > > > for
> > > > > the basinc type question as I'm sure most are
> > past
> > > > > this point so I'll make it quick.
> > > > >
> > > > > Although I have a USB iBook for daily work, my
> > > > most
> > > > > commonly used/liked machine at home is an
> > Apple
> > > > TAM
> > > > > upgraded with a Sonnet 500mhz G3, Firewire and
> > > > USB.
> > > > > It runs 0s9.1 (can upgraqde to 9.2). I have
> > iMovie
> > > > 1.0
> > > > > loaded.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm interested in joining the trend of
> > > > transferring
> > > > > VHS family video to DVD.  I've narrowed it
> > down to
> > > > > these components
> > > > > 1. Dazzle Hollywood DV Editor for mac (now
> > > > > discontinued but available).
> > > > > 2. Lacie FW D2 HD (120mb seem fine)
> > > > > 3. Lacie FW dvd. (has roxio lite included?)
> > > > >
> > > > > I know there is Formac and other brand
> > > > alternatives
> > > > > but would anyone recommend against the combo
> > > > listed
> > > > > above?  I've read mixed review of Formac.  I
> > also
> > > > > cannot invest alot of money even though it is
> > for
> > > > an
> > > > > important use (family videos are priceless,
> > I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > > many will agree...many relatives have passed
> > on).
> > > > And
> > > > > I want eqiupment that will work with the
> > TAM/os9.
> > > > I
> > > > > have read some basic info and realize that I
> > need
> > > > > Quicktime Pro to convert .mov file to the
> > > > importable
> > > > > .dv file to use in 1.0.  And one more
> > question.
> > > > Does
> > > > > anyone know if the is a source for iMovie 2.0
> > or
> > > > the
> > > > > most recent iMovie that will still work in
> > os9?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much in advance!!
> > > > > (Sorry to those who have probably had to
> > explain
> > > > this
> > > > > before)
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
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