>I met the district manager there once (when I was spending $15,000 >on Christmas presents). I think her name was Stacey, but I am not >sure. She seemed nice. I don't know how to contact her, or I would >sent this same rant. I wonder if she would care. Your experiences sound too familiar to mine and others at the Kenwood (Cincinnati) store for this to be a localized, district manager issue (though contacting them may help Apple in the long run). This is obviously at top-down training (or lack thereof) issue. And I am sure Apple is losing potential switchers at these stores; I have resorted to take my potential switchers to the Apple store for the "eye candy" effect: lots of working peripherals; the software selection that eliminates the lack-of-software misconception. Then I take them to MicroCenter to make their purchase. That way, I am assured they will get a good customer experience as well. The Apple Store is also a quick way to get Mac specific connectors/cables that MicroCenter does not keep in inventory. Unattended switchers are probably going from the Apple Store to MicroCenter too, but I doubt they make their way to the back of the store where the Apple department is. Conversely, I was in my local Lowes recently and actually had some great customer service experiences. I walked up to 2 employees who were obviously discussing some work-related task issues; I waited, not in a hurry for them to finish. When they noticed I was standing there, the both, literally, jumped around to face me, apologized and addressed my questions eagerly. That single act could have been a fluke, but later as I was strolling down another aisle, a not-young fellow was hauling a huge load that looked to be about 4 times his body-weight down a cross aisle. He screeched the load to a halt to let me pass, with the load nearly rolling over him. Though I was the one who felt bad, he apologized, then as I began to move by, asked if he could help me find something (obviously this was training, as it wasn't a fluid part of the exchange, but more of an "oh, yeah, remember customer service"). I have not always had such good experiences in service at these huge chains, but someone appears to be addressing customer service seriously at least locally. Now that I think of it, I wonder if THAT is the reason I have been driving past Home Depot to get to Lowes... Until Apple -- the folks at the top -- say customer service is a serious issue, it always will be a negative one. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>