I just had my 17" die on me this week with similar symptoms, leading to a hard freeze. Problem was 3rd-party RAM, possibly related to the 10.4.8 upgrade. On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Kynan Shook wrote: > You could try resetting the PMU: http://docs.info.apple.com/ > article.html?artnum=303319 > > Also, try a different Firewire cable, and a different Firewire > device. Be careful, because a bad Firewire cable (or device) can > damage working devices. It's a bit of a catch-22 sometimes; it's > difficult to tell what's broken without plugging it in to > something, but by plugging it in, you might break the other hardware. > > > Kynan Shook > kashook at wisc.edu > http://homepage.mac.com/kynan/ > > > > David Ferleger <david at ferleger.com> writes: >> Need help ASAP! >> Using MacBook Pro 17" with OS 10.4.8. Disk permissions are OK. And >> (at least before just now) Disk Utility REPAIR from a second computer >> showed it OK (after repairing a minor volume info file). >> >> After that Disk Utility repair with the 17" as Target Drive, I left >> and returned 1 1/2 hrs later. 17" had not been plugged in. Started >> up. Battery was Zero. Booted up fine with AC charger. >> >> THEN..... >> 1. external LaCie HD plugged in by either Firewire 400 or 800, DID >> NOT SHOW ON DESKTOP, though I can feel the vibrations of the disk >> when touching it. >> 2. Disk Utility FREEZES without showing ANY disks existing. Have to >> Force Quit to leave it. >> 3. System Profiler shows my computer data, BUT the Firewire >> selection, also Freezes, showing nothing, and have to Force Quit >> System Profiler too. >> 4. Email and internet work fine. > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984