On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Charles Martin wrote: > But I think you need to recognise that you're something of an > exception. I'm not sure -- I think what I wrote would apply to anyone who works in an organization of any moderate size (say a couple hundred people or more). Anywhere big enough to have a planning department, a budgeting process, annual reports, etc. You'd be quite likely to find "complex" Excel documents being routed to non-advanced users for completion. My manager at a prior job didn't know the first thing about Excel, but he was required to use it to complete the quite- complex budget templates twice a year. > (like bold, italic or some fancy font they have that I don't), > nothing changes in 95%+ of the worksheets I get -- and I've opened > many of them in Excel proper just to be sure of this. This is but > one of the many reasons to hate Microsoft. Huh? That makes no sense. Don't hate Microsoft because people are using the tools for things where a simpler solution exists. That's more of a training issue than a Microsoft issue. > You make an excellent point that COMPLEX Excel documents really > need Excel or something closer to it than, say, Appleworks in order > to be read as intended, but of course at that point I generally > insist on PDF anyway. :) I would stay as far away from AppleWorks as possible, given that it doesn't even support tabbed workbooks, which I would hardly consider an advanced feature. It also supports the fewest formulas of the apps I tested back in the day. As I recall, I think the OpenOffice/ NeoOffice products had the best compatibility. But even in basic documents, troubles can arise quickly. If your office uses Word to share and modify a given document, and you use comments and track changes to keep up with the modifications, I found that none of the clones handled both these features properly. (Things may have changed lately, as I've more-recently looked at Excel, not Word.) > For basic word and excel files, however, AppleWorks/NeoOffice/ > OpenOffice/ThinkFree Office/icExcel/Mariner Calc et al are > perfectly usable and acceptable greater than 95% of the time. 95% is a very high percentage, and one that I don't think broad statistics would support. I think a statement like this would be more reasonable: "For a majority of users, an Excel/Word clone will probably be sufficient to open, view, and make changes to most documents they receive. However, if those documents require 100% compatibility with Word and/or Excel, then there is presently nothing available other than Word and/or Excel." I seriously hope Microsoft's latest "open standard" for Office documents changes this, as I think competition for Office is a good thing ... but I'm not holding my breath. -rob.