On 15/12/2004, at 5:14 AM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > I'm surprised no one else has had problems with excessively long > logins. > snip The Discussion Boards on Apple have several long threads on this problem. One reason for increased startup times for many folk seems to be font issues [large numbers and incorrectly placed]. I have only the standard fonts and have not moved or replaced them so that factor is not an issue for me yet my startup time on my TiPB 867, 768 RAM, 10.3.6 has gone from about one minute to two. Like many others I have resigned myself to the problem being a quirk of the 10.3.6 upgrade and am resolved to just waiting for 10.3.7 [next week? week after? week after that?]. Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA