Christopher Thank you! I forgot about ccc, which I have used for years for simple backups (I hate chemo brain). I already did a clean install on the ibookg4 from the original disks (w/updates), but in the process of looking for my spare firewire cable I found that I do have a stand alone copy of Tiger, so I will start over. i have gone over the ccc help and think I can do what I want without messing anything up but I am not sure. Can I use my iMac, that has two firewire ports, as an intermediary so I can use ccc from there? Can I connect both ibooks by firewire and start the g3 ibook in target disk mode (it has no video) or would I need to start both ibooks in target disk mode? Once I have tiger on the G4 ibook migration assistant is an option, just using the two ibooks, but time will be an issue since one of the power adapters went out last night. This is what I have availabe to use iMac G5 w/ 150 GB of free space and two firewire ports and ccc installed iBook G4 w/ original install disks iBook G3 w/o disks and no video (dead logic board, I assume) 100 GB external fire wire drive Panther full install disks Tiger full install disks Sad to say maybe I am overthinking this and missing the obvious. Thanks again Judi V On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Christopher Collins < maclist at analogdigital.com.au> wrote: > Copy the data you want off, or clone the disk to another drive using > either ccc or superduper or something else. > > Then do a clean install and all necessary updates. > > Then connect the backup and copy over the information you want to keep! > > Good idea if you haven't clean installed since Panther. > > cjc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080502/9745c25b/attachment.html