On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 10:11 PM, good-dog at northshore.net wrote: > Today it's been konking out when I try to forward a particular > message. When I failed at this a couple of times, I copied the text > into TextEdit, thinking I'd attach the document to an email, but then > my TextEdit passed out. I assume that it conks out only with this particular message? And copying the text into TextEdit causes that to crash. Hmm. Many possibilities but this reminds me of the time I copied Control-Z into a text file on a Tandy 100. Control-Z is something like an end of file marker on the Tandy 100. I wrote it to a text file using basic. Zap. Cold started my computer and wiped the memory. Note that I said reminds me of the time... so, I wonder if there might be some nasty little character in that file you may have typed by holding down one of the power keys rather than the shift key? If so, retyping the entire email might be useful. If you have a reply quoted in it, try it without the reply. You can send the messages to yourself. I had a lot of trouble with mail that only cleared up when I did an erase and a full install of Jaguar. I think I corrupted something in the initial upgrade. There are so many files involved that I think Apple realizes that trouble shooting is very difficult and recommends an erase and reinstall. As far as deleting messages in bulk, I do it all the time with no problem. --- I noticed while listening to the Capital Gang on CNN rant on pro and con about UM's 20 points for Blacks that not one of the CG on CNN is Black. Jack Rodgers Email: jackrodgers at earthlink.net Web: www.jackrodgers.com iCal: coming soon iBlog: coming soon