At 02:55 PM 4/18/2003, you wrote: >only USB devices bzzzzz! I found out just a week ago that usb devices can and will cause apps to crash. My usb flatbed scanner was causing a conflict with a film scanner because they were both plugged in at the same time. The result was that certain *software* acted slow, then crashed. Solution: unplugged the flatbed. As a troubleshooter, IMHO, you must look suspiciously on hardware. BTW, think of the unix command line as a second way, a bonus method, a wonderful gift from Up Above, to troubleshoot problems. The Classic OSes never had it.