My iMac is one of the original 233hrz Rev. A Bondi Blue, with a NewerTechnologies 433 CPU, max amt. of ram, and OS 8.6.1 I did get it to shut down, and when I restarted it threw away the finder preferences, stating that they were corrupted. and I was able to start up with the extensions off, and then shut down normally. Since the Finder preferences were redone, Couldn't I also trash the System preferences, and the Macintosh HD preferences, and then restart, to see if that would help. I know that they are rewritten when they are in the trash(that has not been emptied). I learned that in a Troubleshooting the Macintosh class, where the finder preferences are trashed first. I didn't think of it, the iMac did it for me. So since the Finder preferences were corrupted, then rewritten at the time of start up with the shift key pressed down. Now, everytime I go to start up, the imac gets stuck. I can see the progress bar, but it gets stuck around 15% of the way every time (not holding down the shift key). How do I remedy this problem and get my imac to start up properly? Thanks for your advice. Should I zap the p-ram, before trashing the system preferences, then restarting then trashing the HD preferences, in that order, separately. I seems like the main issue was the Finder, but it did make a statement about the Finder and the System Folder. Well, I was able to restart the computer only after taking a huge chance, and the computer trashed the finder preferences and created new Finder preferences. I still have the problem with the extensions because I cannot use the CD ROM to run any utilities. June On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:59 AM, alberto de leon wrote: > on 2/26/03 12:32 AM, June Parlett at jparlett at gte.net wrote: > >> After not being able to get the computer restarted, meaning that it >> hung up >> while loading the extensions, I finally got it to open with >> extensions off. >> Then I looked at the extensions, and turned one of them off, and >> restarted, >> then the same thing happened, then I started up with extension off, >> and >> while I was back in the extensions, I turned an extension back on. >> Then >> Something dire happened tonite while I was linking to a rather large >> website >> from a url link in an email to answer questions about being a computer >> graphic artist. Well, the site too a long time to load, and I am on a >> DSL >> line then when it came open, there was a security warning, twice, >> then it >> hung up, when I clicked on something else in my Harddrive to check to >> see >> how much Harddrive space I had left, which was 865mb. Then when I >> went to >> shut down from the Special Menu, I got this icky message: The start >> up disk >> no longer has a valid system folder. System and Finder must be in the >> System >> Folder. If you continue you may not be able to restart the computer. >> NOT be >> Able To Restart The Computer! What is this. I did not mess with the >> system >> folder. I turned off a >> >> While this was going on before I got the message, I even opened up a >> document that I had notice there in my hard drive to read, and tried >> to make >> a copy of it, so I could past it into an email and send it to myself >> at >> work, when I saw that desk top was devoid of any icons, and the HD >> icon was >> flickering. When I clicked on it, it gave the same Error of type-127. >> Can >> someone please answer me asap. >> >> I have a bondi blue G3 using OS 8.6. This is freaking me out. >> June Parlett >> I also have a G4 on which I am writing this. 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