[G4] Re: Super Duper Cloning software/Stuck

[David DelMonte]

The firmware does not reside on the drive. It is in a "ROM" chip on  
the motherboard.

David

On Jan 17, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Marla wrote:

> Thanks so much. I looked at the set up manual (never
> knew one existed) and there's a nice diagram about
> where things go. Guess I expanded memory in the past.
>
> But is it really OK to upgrade my firmware (I already
> know which versions I have and need) on this old
> drive? It does seem the simplest thing, but someone
> told me that in rare cases, upgrading your firmware
> can render your machine useless...
>
> I hate to live in fear, but is this true? And how rare
> is rare?
>
> Marla
>
> --- Steve Goldstein <sng at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
>>
>> You are the first person to support my assertion
>> that the firmware does not reside on the drive, but
>> on the computer itself.  I think there is a special
>> ROM chip (at least in the older Macs) on which it
>> resides.  I can recall in the early days of the Mac
>> when people removed the ROM chip to make the clones
>> of the Macs, either as desktops or as laptops
>> (anybody remember the Kangaroo?  I had one.).  But,
>> I guess that somebody asserts that you need 9.x to
>> do one of the firmware upgrades to the ROM.  That is
>> entirely possible; I think I did that once to one of
>> my older Macs, but it was so long ago that I forget
>> the details.  One thing I seem to recall is that you
>> need 9.x (9.2?) to be able to determine your
>> firmware version before upgrading it.
>>
>> Bottom line: if your old drive is still working and
>> you have 9.x on it, go ahead and do the firmware
>> upgrade (to the computer's ROM -- Read Only Memory)
>> before you do anything else.  Then, clone your old
>> drive to the new one using CCC or SuperDuper (I
>> downloaded it after reading these discussions, and
>> it looks more straightforward to use than CCC, and
>> it is free if all you use it for is cloning and not
>> scheduled backups).
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>> At 2:23 AM -0800 1/17/07, keith_w wrote:
>>> That means the firmware is already in the Mac's CPU
>> somewhere, and it's THAT that is being upgraded, not
>> the hard drive.
>>> You said, "Perform firmware upgrade on new drive."
>> Just a point of clarification... It's not ON the new
>> HD, it's USING the new drive.
>>
>>
>
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