2004-07-13 kl. 16.04 skrev Paul Russell: > upgraded to 10.3.4 and Java 1.4.2 again and now the freezes are back. > Typically they happen in Safari so I'm wondering whether it's Java > 1.4.2 or OS X 10.3.4 that's the culprit (moral of the story: when > debugging only change one thing at a time). One other thing I notice > with 10.3.4 is that Safari will often "hang" until I move the mouse ----------- I have had to sent in a few reports to Apple since 10.3.4 and Java 1.4.2 but I'm prefer Camino and since I installed their update 0.8 about the same time I thought sometimes Camino was the culprit. Usually I don't get total freeze, though it happens, but Camino or Safari (use for certain sites) craches and occationally can't be restarted without me restarting the whole Ti 400/ 768Mb/40Gb HD. Sometimes a forced restart of Finder will be enough to get things working again but I can sence that something is a bit funny until I do a proper restart. Had a little bit of similar fuss in the beginning of 10.3.2 (?) but that got better with the security updates. In the same time I' aware of that I haven't done a clean install since I bought the Ti in 2002(?). Even when I istalled the new 40 HD I only made a CarbonCopy from the old 10 HD, so I feel I have no right to complain unless I do that first. Thought I let you know that you not entirely alone. :-) I carefully do all repair stuff before and after updates and don't think I have anything added that could do something to the system. Certainly not having anything not ordinary running when the problem occurs. Can make my Ti very unhappy however by having iPhoto, PhotoShop Elements, GraphicConverter running at the same times as 2 or 3 browsers plus Mail and Texthandler. An hour or so in to that load one or the other or Finder itself will complain and need a forced close and after saving the rest a restart. But that i accept as limitations to a now old (*patting it kindly*) Tibook. Lisbeth in Gothenburg <http://homepage.mac.com/holisticum/> updat 040712 <http://www.got-a-mac.org> medlemssida för Got-a-Mac (Mug in Gothenburg)