Have you tried starting up in single user mode, or "open firmware" mode and reset nvram? Have you reset PRAM? What was the last application, widget, etc installed? Might you consider installing 10.5.7 (get the combo version from apple and install)? Can you startup from the install disc and run disc utility? On Jun 25, 2009, at 0725, Neil wrote: I had a hard freeze on Sunday on my G5/2x2 PowerMac running 10.5.6. I could move the mouse, but nothing else on the system responded. The dock wouldn't even unhide. I couldn't force quit anything. So, I shut down the system using the button on the Mac. When I tried to start the Mac, I got to the login screen, but it had a pinstripe and then froze on the screen with the Apple, but no login screen. I tried booting with the shift key. Same. Then, I tried booting from the internal back-up drive and a got a pinstriped screen with a question marked folder, then the same freeze. The same happened when I attached a firewire boot drive and tried to boot holding cmd-opt- shift-del. Same result. Any ideas? Thanks. _______________________________________________ X4U mailing list X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20090707/e3dc7894/attachment.html