We could live in a Windoze world where DOS hangs around forever. Sure there is backward compatability. But at a price. Apple did a pretty painless thing with hte PPC chip. Fairly painless. Then it came to be that you had to buy a PPC machine to run PPC code that was not fat. Apple is making a huge change with the past, really severing things, but it is going to make things a lot better for them, for users, when the code is clean because they are running all of their machines with motherboard standardizations. They are simplifying and getting things done. Sure, I was somewhat unhappy with Jaguar when it first came out. All I could think was why would they do this or that or not do this or that. Then I really fell in love with Jag. Things change and there have been some real fundamental changes at Apple. It's a good thing! My iBeige 233 ran like a dog on Jag, until I put a new 80 gig hard drive in it. Now it feels like I have a much faster processor. It snaps to attention. Patrick